If you create the right pause, the listener falls into it, and you can use their fall to continue the improvisation.

Guests

Casey Sokol. musician, educator.

Sections

00:13 intro
01:31 successful introvert
06:08 person as collective
19:13 capturing student attention
23:33 silence matters
26:42 motivating students
32:54 TikTok attention span
37:46 lost in rabbit holes
47:27 serendipity with control
55:50 MRI sounds
58:53 being a mentor
62:56 money from music
67:21 engaging your cashier
71:54 fragmentation spreads outward
79:55 limits in the moment
89:23 listening needs something to hear
95:01 stranger shtick
99:50 conclusion

If you enjoyed that, you might like my exchange with Bembo Davies for his clowning, and collaboration through improv; or with Holger Krekel, for his quirky observations on society and digital interactions; or with Jessica Böhme, for her experiments in social transformation and comfort moving between the spiritual and scientific.